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	<title>Comments on: Fallen Heroes</title>
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		<title>By: Can-C Eye Drops</title>
		<link>http://www.joecopnw.com/blog/2009/12/03/fallen-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-2462</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that can be true in every case. Of course. Example 1: Kid jumps out in front of my car without warning. I run him over and kill him. There is no intent to kill despite the fact that a death occurs. Example 2: A doctor prescribes a drug for the patient. The patient has no history of allergies. The patient nonetheless experience anaphylactic shock and dies. No intent to kill even though death occurs. Example 3: We get into a fight. I punch you, and you fall over, hit your head on a rock, and die from the concussion. No intent to kill, because death is not a likely consequence of my actions. Conversely: I shoot a police officer in the chest 10 times with a submachine gun. He does not die because he is wearing a vest. Nearly everyone would find an intent to kill. I place a powerful explosive device in the receiver of someone&#039;s phone. It detonates when he answers the phone, but the victim drops the receiver and it only blows off his legs and he survives. Nearly everyone would find an intent to kill. Intent is proved by the totality of the facts and circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that can be true in every case. Of course. Example 1: Kid jumps out in front of my car without warning. I run him over and kill him. There is no intent to kill despite the fact that a death occurs. Example 2: A doctor prescribes a drug for the patient. The patient has no history of allergies. The patient nonetheless experience anaphylactic shock and dies. No intent to kill even though death occurs. Example 3: We get into a fight. I punch you, and you fall over, hit your head on a rock, and die from the concussion. No intent to kill, because death is not a likely consequence of my actions. Conversely: I shoot a police officer in the chest 10 times with a submachine gun. He does not die because he is wearing a vest. Nearly everyone would find an intent to kill. I place a powerful explosive device in the receiver of someone&#8217;s phone. It detonates when he answers the phone, but the victim drops the receiver and it only blows off his legs and he survives. Nearly everyone would find an intent to kill. Intent is proved by the totality of the facts and circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: joecopnw</title>
		<link>http://www.joecopnw.com/blog/2009/12/03/fallen-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These three men and one woman are all heroes not because they were shot “passively” as you say, though I doubt if there was anything passive about it.  They are heroes because of the job they did every day. To protect the great citizens of our country, yes even someone as whinny, worthless and misguided as you.

As for Maurice Clemmons (your poor deceased “hero” killer) if you knew anything about this creature I don’t think you would say he was making a “political statement”.  There was nothing political about it.  He was simply a criminal who didn’t like law enforcement.  He should not even have been walking free and would not have been except for the insane actions of Governor Mike Huckabee.  He had multiple felony convictions in Arkansas and eight felony charges in Washington.  In 2009 he was charged with the &lt;strong&gt;rape of a child&lt;/strong&gt;.  I suppose that also qualifies him as a hero in your mind.

I see your suggestion that Clemmons actions were &lt;em&gt;altruistic &lt;/em&gt;as just the opposite.  He was a very &lt;strong&gt;selfish &lt;/strong&gt;man with no convictions and no morals.  As is with most criminals, they can think only of themselves without regard for others or society as a whole.

As for your last statement about the slaughter of the four heroes, this only confirms my belief that you should seek out a mental health professional.  If you let me know what area you live in I can refer you to some competent professional help.

My first inclination was to delete your comment but for now I will leave it so that others may see the kind of person you are and as a reminder to myself as to why I do this job  ---  so that people like you have a right to speak their opinion no matter how vial and ridiculous they may be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These three men and one woman are all heroes not because they were shot “passively” as you say, though I doubt if there was anything passive about it.  They are heroes because of the job they did every day. To protect the great citizens of our country, yes even someone as whinny, worthless and misguided as you.</p>
<p>As for Maurice Clemmons (your poor deceased “hero” killer) if you knew anything about this creature I don’t think you would say he was making a “political statement”.  There was nothing political about it.  He was simply a criminal who didn’t like law enforcement.  He should not even have been walking free and would not have been except for the insane actions of Governor Mike Huckabee.  He had multiple felony convictions in Arkansas and eight felony charges in Washington.  In 2009 he was charged with the <strong>rape of a child</strong>.  I suppose that also qualifies him as a hero in your mind.</p>
<p>I see your suggestion that Clemmons actions were <em>altruistic </em>as just the opposite.  He was a very <strong>selfish </strong>man with no convictions and no morals.  As is with most criminals, they can think only of themselves without regard for others or society as a whole.</p>
<p>As for your last statement about the slaughter of the four heroes, this only confirms my belief that you should seek out a mental health professional.  If you let me know what area you live in I can refer you to some competent professional help.</p>
<p>My first inclination was to delete your comment but for now I will leave it so that others may see the kind of person you are and as a reminder to myself as to why I do this job  &#8212;  so that people like you have a right to speak their opinion no matter how vial and ridiculous they may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.joecopnw.com/blog/2009/12/03/fallen-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-1282</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly what part of being passively shot while munching down donuts makes you a hero?  &quot;Hero&quot; to me implies that someone actually did something heroic.  Are you saying these officers each rolled on top of live grenades?  I won&#039;t take sides but it looks to me like the killer qualifies more as a hero than do the victims.  Didn&#039;t the killer ultimately sacrifice his life simply to make a political statement in support of his own community?   Doesn&#039;t the killer&#039;s actions meet the definition of altruism?  Anyone would agree the slain cops were innocent but if you cannot recognize the merit of their slaughter then you are just putting yourself and others in needless danger for the future,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what part of being passively shot while munching down donuts makes you a hero?  &#8220;Hero&#8221; to me implies that someone actually did something heroic.  Are you saying these officers each rolled on top of live grenades?  I won&#8217;t take sides but it looks to me like the killer qualifies more as a hero than do the victims.  Didn&#8217;t the killer ultimately sacrifice his life simply to make a political statement in support of his own community?   Doesn&#8217;t the killer&#8217;s actions meet the definition of altruism?  Anyone would agree the slain cops were innocent but if you cannot recognize the merit of their slaughter then you are just putting yourself and others in needless danger for the future,</p>
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